Comments on: Symbols of Fertility and Abundance in the Royal Cemetery at Ur, Iraq https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/ Tue, 13 Aug 2024 03:46:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: dianabuja https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-19 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:43:14 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-19 Similar adornments are made
Similar adornments are made in various parts of africa for use on pendants or earrings. There are no associated symbolic meanings. (I live in Burundi, central africa, and have worked and travelled widely in africa and the middle east …)
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By: Peter Wise https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-17 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:05:20 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-17 I have to say a cluster of
I have to say a cluster of grapes was my thought too. Still a fertility symbol though, as explained in Dr. Miller’s introduction above.

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By: Naomi Miller https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-16 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:56:55 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-16 In reply to KP.

As I mention on page 130:
As I mention on page 130: “Perhaps the loops represent grapes. Here, too, one must consider how other fruit forms are made. Both dates and apples “in their clusters” are quite three- dimensional and are not depicted in outline. Unlike dates, grapes and grapevines do not appear in the im- agery of mid third-millennium Mesopotamia.”

The short answer: No.

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By: KP https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-15 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:08:12 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-15 Could these represent
Could these represent clusters of grapes?

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By: Naomi Miller https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-13 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:18:14 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-13 In reply to Valentin.

Number of loops: Only one
Number of loops: Only one twisted pendant was illustrated. As the article clearly states: “Nine have nine loops and three have eleven loops arranged along a vertical axis. One has four pairs of loops and one has six pairs.”

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By: Naomi Miller https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-12 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:25:52 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-12 In reply to Valentin (again).

The bit at the right is not a
The bit at the right is not a knot. Rather, it is the loop from which the pendant hung. As it is not a knot, and is not sealed (just twisted), it seems unlikely to represent a ‘sealed accomplishment’. Sadly, the only place to see this material on display is in the Penn Museum, Philadelphia. The photographs clearly do not do these items justice.

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By: Naomi Miller https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-11 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:22:58 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-11 In reply to Valentin.

As a point of information:
As a point of information: these are not ‘ear pendants’; they are more likely to have been attached to beaded necklaces.

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By: Valentin (again) https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-10 Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:06:21 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-10 One more thing, the small
One more thing, the small knot at the right far end might represent “sealed accomplishment”. No one can untie it. Not even “the gods”… not even Enki.

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By: Valentin https://ajaonline.org/note/1497/#comment-9 Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:02:32 +0000 https://www.ajaonline.org/2013/01/01/1497/#comment-9 How about “entanglement to
How about “entanglement to infinity”. These ear pendants might be used to assure “the god´s whispering honoring moon deities for the 11 wholes”. I have been in UR in 1980. And at Eridur

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